To be clear the features listed below are not rumors. Everything below has been confirmed with sources linked below or mentioned somewhere in this thread.
ABOUT: This is a list of features that were COMPLETELY CUT, REDUCED, or TWEAKED for the worst from previous base versions within The Sims series. It DOESN'T include missing expansion pack features that should be base by now (i.e. Weather) or new features promised for Sims 4, but later cut such as Colors Impacting Emotions and Woohoo Skills.
FUTURE PROBABILITY: ABSOLUTELY NONE of these features mentioned below have been suggested as coming to Sims 4 at a later point. In fact, a few have been called out as impossible. For example, it is INCORRECT to assume Toddlers will make it back with EP. There is no promise or suggestion or even slightest hint that says that will happen.
UPDATES: Please post any additions along with a source. I will not make changes without sources directly from EA, SimGuru's, YibSims, or screenshots/videos. Corrections are welcome, but to be clear your opinion alone on why a feature is listed is generally
not a correction.
SOURCES: Sources are indicated below with the
blue (x). We are in the process of going back and linking directly to the source. If you happen to see a black (x) and know the source please reply. We are adding the sources retroactively. It shouldn't happen but if by mistake the source doesn't mention the cut, let us know and we will locate the correct source.
COVERAGE: Well we were obviously on
Reddit on Saturday during the forum lockdown! We have received mentions on
Honeywells blog and
Kunabee's Blog! And we have been discussed on all types of forums:
GameFAQs,
Sims 4 Forum,
Tomb Raider Forums,
Atrl.net,
Multiple Facebook Posts,
Empire Minecraft,
Highschool Story Boards,
Multiple SimsVIP Comments,
Grcade,
Polish Sims 4 Forum,
Sims 4 Fan,
Bronies Forum,
ndonesian gaming site forum, and
Gamespot Forums.
Awesome job guys! Keep spreading the news!
THANKS: A big shout out to everyone on this thread who has helped to ensure this list is accurate and complete!!!
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Graham Nardone (Sims 4 Producer) wrote:But the conversation then changes into discussing what is or isn’t there and
the minutiae of differences in each feature along some scale because the easiest way to try and understand something new is to compare and contrast it to what came before.Graham,
Every series from Mario to Grand Theft Auto typically will cut a feature or two from one installment to the other. That said, I don't believe we,
as in most of the people you want to sell this game to, consider these a "minutiae" of differences...
MAJOR CONFIRMED MISSING: (All were in base versions of Sims 3)
No
create a style (CAST) - NOT technically possible in future expansion
(x)
No modifications to public space - The park in the demo is a mix of a community lot and public space
(x1) (x2)
No "normal" careers -
Law enforcement,
Medical,
Business, etc. were removed
(x)
NO OPEN WORLD - You can't just walk from house to house without loading screen...
(x1) (x2)
No
pools(x)
No
terrain tools other than paint - REALLY !?!?!
(x)
No story progression - Aside from Sim's aging its out!
(x)
No toddlers
(x)
No way to create/place new lots - And you only have 2 empty ones! (patched into base Sims 3)
(x)
Babies are mere objects -
***ALL INTERACTION IS THRU THE BASINET, NO NEEDS, YOU CAN'T WALK AROUND WITH THEM***(x)
Backgrounds are illusions - The buildings in the background are not playable AT ALL in the game!
floors/levels(x1) (x2)
SIGNIFICANTLY smaller "worlds" of <25
lots compared to 125+ lots
(x)
Loading screens for individual lots
(x)
Teens are same height as adults and they along with elders all
look nearly identical.
(x)
ALL OTHER MISSING GAMEPLAY ELEMENTS: (Were in base versions of Sims 1, Sims 2,
or Sims 3)
No acne
(x)
No
aliens(x)
No animated hair (in Sims 2)
(x)
No aspiration failures (with shrink visit) (in Sims 2)
(x)
No bartender (as NPC) (in Sims 2)
basements(patched into base Sims 3)
(x)
No bookstores
(x)
No
burglars(x)
No
cars (including as décor in home)
(x)
No
cemeteries(x)
No cinema’s (in Sims 2)
cloths shopping(in Sims 2)
(x)
No
color wheel, predefined to ~20 colors
(x)
No comfort needs (in Sims 2)
curfewmulti-tone hair color (users select only main color)
(x)
No
dinner proposals(in Sims 2)
diseases or illness(x)
No dreams (in Sims 2)
eyelash length slider(x)
No
favorites (food, color, music)
(x)
No
fears(x)
No full face make-up (in Sims 2)
(x)
No
garage doors(x)
No
gardeners for hire - Who is going to cut my lawn?
(x)
No
ghosts(x1) (x2)
No
grocery stores(x)
No
male body hair(patched into base Sims 3)
(x)
No
move object cheat
(x)
No newspapers
(x)
No
opacity slider for makeup (patched into base Sims 3)
(x)
No party invitations from other Sims (ok this may be a duplicate as it is apparently part of Story Progression)
(x)
No
rabbit holes at all - Sadly the fix was the sim goes off screen instead of fixing it so the locations were working lots
(x)
No
random deathsrepairmen(x)
No
repo man - Your toilets are now safe!!!
(x)
No
restaurants(in
(x)
No swimming / swimwear - Including lakes, fountains, etc.
(x)
No tragic clown or social bunny
(x)
No way to watch the sim commute to work/school
(x)
No website for browsing exchange or store (its in-game only)
Will Wright(in Sims 1 & 2)
No zodiac signs
bikeschanging tables(in Sims 2)
cribs(x)
No
highchairs(x)
ALL OTHER THAT IS CONFIRMED LAME:
32-bit executable - Intel has not sold mainstream consumer PC 32-bit processors in like 7+ years and it should have been 64-bit (to address more RAM which is very important to this game) (x)
Fewer "actual" traits (new traits = rewards in Sims 3) (x)
Fewer user selectable traits per Sim within CAS (additional ones assigned during gameplay) (x)
Incompatible simpoint currency - DON'T BUY BUNDLES IF YOU PLAN TO USE THEM ON SIMS 4(x)
MOST LIKELY TRUE (not yet confirmed):
No cashier’s (in Sims 2) (x)
No create a world
No exterminator (in Sims 2) (x)
No swings
Premium Membership REQUIRED to get certain sets on release day or at all
STATUS UNCERTAIN (not yet confirmed):
No inheritance (in Sims 2) (x)
No interests (in Sims 2) (x)
No magazines (in Sims 2) (x)
No pinball machines (in Sims 2) (x)
No way to water flower beds / bushes (in Sims 2) (x)
No family trees (x)
CONTESTED FACTS (responses vary):
No attraction system
No MAC version - Answer changed from "after PC release" to "no comment" which has 100% of the time ultimately meant "no".
But don't worry you can "emotionally" breastfeed (although only while standing and by clicking on a crib?) and they have rocket ships to off screen. Yep, that's the trade off
Btw, since a picture is worth a thousand words... I proudly present The Sims 4 World Map! Yep, its that small!
To be clear: This is NOT a single "neighborhood" below, in fact it is showing ALL 6 "neighborhoods" in 1 "world"!!!